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Comments found in article “Statistical Analysis of U of Chicago Graffiti“:

Re:License? (Score:3, Interesting)

by Hurricane78 (562437) writes: on Monday February 08, @12:11AM (#31058658)

Well, what did you expect, from a mindset is not attached to physical reality?
That it would make any sense at all?

The wall with the graffiti is a physical object.
A paper photo in your hand would be a physical object.

But neither the graffiti itself, nor a photo of it, are physical works.
They are ideas/information. Other rules apply.

“Licensing”/“copyright“ is a concept, based on the misconception that ideas/information would be physical objects, and the false need of some people, to control that information.
Trying to argue with it, using logic, is (because of that false base assumption) by definition impossible.

The real physical rules for information are: If it’s out there, it’s out. Period.
So you either never give it out, and won’t be able to prove that it exists at all. Or you give it out to your chosen group.
Which can for example be people that you trust. Or, as in this case, everybody.
In case you gave it to everybody who wants it… well, you should have thought earlier about that everybody could store and copy it at will. (Just like looking at the physical wall and then telling someone, or drawing it from memory, is storing and copying.)

It does not matter if people want to accept that. Just as it does not matter if people want to accept gravity.
You can try to enforce weird rules of behavior onto people, trough mental tricks of psychology. And it may be easier to do in this case, than it is for gravity. But in the end it’s futile. Because you can’t control the whole world. Even with ACTA.
If nothing else, you will end up banning the ability to look at it, because some people became really good at memorizing and reproducing it later. And everybody who can’t remember it, will by definition not remember that it existed.

Whenever anyone mentions “facts”, you know he tries to shove his dogmas down your throat.

by ericvids (227598) writes: on Monday February 08, @03:46AM (#31059328)

This may be the BEST counterargument ever to “all information should be free”. Bravo!

However, while I genuinely want to mod you up, I do believe that CURRENT laws to control information are stupid. Similar to how laws can sometimes be unfairly and maliciously used to allow known murderers to remain innocent and walk freely, many patents and copyrights are unfairly and maliciously used to prevent people from contributing to the greater good of humanity. Patents in particular are a minefield — something’s clearly wrong with a system that encourages trolls to cripple the true innovators.

Back to the topic, I believe what the researcher did, copyrighting her photographs, is all right, regardless of whether she released it under Creative Commons. I don’t believe she was copyrighting the actual message on the graffiti anyway, just the expression of it on photograph. (Of course properly the copyright should be attributed to both HER and whoever made the graffiti, but then I would suppose THAT’s public domain since the original author didn’t stake a claim to it…)

Pet peeve: Profane people propagating perfunctory pedantry.

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This time the insight lies in the part where he says “.. and wished that I could just use my hands instead of me feet ..”.  Cheers.

Re:Great (Score:5, Funny)

by dnahelicase (1594971) on Wednesday October 21, @09:16AM (#29824553)
This is exactly what I need. You don’t know how many times I’ve been driving and wished that I could use just my hands instead of me feet. This would free up my feet so I could use them to dial my cell phone, mess with the radio, flip people the middle toe…

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Not quite sure what to make of this one, other than that it is obviously hilarious.  This is presented as a valuable find in the quest to making sense from nonsense, “The Theory of Quantum Interpretation of Uncertain Passages of Law”:

by GrandTeddyBearOfDoom (1483117) on Saturday October 31, @10:17PM (#29939605) Homepage
Here's the code in case you're wondering -- gtbod.

<!-- and NO this WASN't WRITTEN in DREAMWEAVER -->

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<h1>The Theory of Quantum Interpretation of Uncertain Passages of Law</h1>

<p>by John</p>

<p>...</p>

<h3>31.4.15.9. If it isn't obvious at first glance, ignore it!</h3>

<p>Rationale: it could have been made obvious if it was necessary (the logic approach proves this) and thus it is simply not intended as a message for you and so you may logically just ignore it.</p>

<p>...</p>

<p>...56</p>

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– The Grand Teddy Bear has Spoken http://chalisque.com/GrandTeddyBear.says%20Hello.Mum.from.John.png

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