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Experiences with a Yale Assure Lock 2 (YRD420) and a 700 series Smart Module (AYR-MOD-ZW3) · zwave-js/node-zwave-js · Discussion #5391 · GitHub

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Image (Asset 1/115) alt= https://shopyalehome.com/products/yale-assure-lock-2-touchscreen-with-z-wave-plus?variant=41399131078788

Module only: https://shopyalehome.com/collections/accessories/products/yale-z-wave-plus-smart-module-for-assure-locks-yrd450430420410?variant=41397668970628
Description says: AYR-MOD-ZW2-USA

I have the YRD430 and the firmware was updated from 1.3.4 to 1.3.10.

@airdrummingfool Can you check which firmware you have and if DoorSense works?

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Image (Asset 2/115) alt= I have 2 of the YRD420 locks as well. I purchased them last October, and at the time, I thought I bought the z-wave modules for them (ZW2). One of them worked fine, the other didn’t. After 3 phone calls with Yale, they finally revealed that the particular firmware on that module wasn’t compatible with the 400 series, and that the new ones would be available by the end of year. I returned the two z-wave modules to Lowe’s

After waiting an additional 6 months, they finally released “new” versions of the ZW2, and I purchased two of them. I had problems pairing them into Home Assistant/Z-Wave JS UI, and I contacted their support. Their support is next to useless. Eventually I did get both modules included into Z-Wave JS UI, but DoorSense is buggy and doesn’t seem to report properly. One door says it’s open when it’s not, and the other says it’s closed. I’m also getting different sensors/entities between the two devices, which is totally strange. I’ve tried reaching back out to their support, but I’ve gotten zero response.

What I’ve discovered in regards to the new ZW2 modules.

Z-Wave Plus version 1
S0 Legacy security
Lock function does work
DoorSense iffy

This is hardly any different than what I had originally back in October.

Yesterday I ordered two ZW3 modules off of eBay. If the only thing that doesn’t work is DoorSense, I can live with that. Since the ZW3 modules are 700 series, in theory if there is a firmware update, they can be updated over the air. Since the DoorSense really isn’t working on the ZW2 modules, it seems to me that I’m better off with the ZW3 modules with Z-Wave Plus version 2, 700 series, and S2 security.

If you hear anything from your contacts within their support team, let everyone know.

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Image (Asset 3/115) alt= Anyway, $100 for a module when the whole lock + module is $180 seems a lot.

Image (Asset 5/115) alt= #5650

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Image (Asset 6/115) alt= Glad I could help. I know what Z-Wave JS UI is, I just don't run it so I didn't know where to find those values right away.
My lock is a YRD450 (same as the 430, just a touchscreen rather than physical buttons). The reason I went with the YRD450 is it is the only lock in the Assure 2 line that has a ZW3 SKU listed on the Z-Wave Alliance DB. I figured it probably counts for something that it's the only certified combo package, even if you can't actually buy it that way yet.

Image (Asset 7/115) alt= Latest Firmware on each lock: 3.10 (I believe)

  1. I am using the august app, so I went into the App and copied over all the programmer codes. I'm sure they might be in a manual somewhere but it was just easier to it this way
  2. I pulled all the batteries out of the devices, and swapped out each module
  3. Put the batteries back in and let the devices start.
  4. Added each new module to ZWave JS using Smart Start to scan the code and set the security to S2
  5. Then for each device I included it to my controller by Entering the A) Programmer Code then Gear B) Pressing 7 then Gear and C) Pressing 1 then Gear (Pressing 3 is for exclusion)
  6. It took maybe 30 seconds for the device to pop up and start the interview. Interview took about 30 seconds to a minute for each device.

Image (Asset 8/115) alt= Image (Asset 9/115) alt= I just noticed today that there is schedule for my lock.
I have had this for years, using on different system than HA, and it was not a known feature of the lock for me.
I can enable the scheduling setting and even query it back from lock. I just am not sure if it works... will test later when home.
Not sure how the lock knows what time it is and how to set the time/date. This scheduling seems a feature self-contained in the lock itself.
I found this in the manual however...
"When batteries are replaced, Smart Module locks have a real time clock that will be set through the User Interface (UI);
it is recommended to verify correct date and time particularly those locks operating under Daylight Saving Time (DST)."
I have no idea where this can be set, I have looked everywhere.
Maybe this is not supported and the integration is pulling info/values that sorta work but are not really functioning on this lock.

Image (Asset 10/115) alt= Can also call service in HA to update user codes.
So one could make an automation that just changes the code at certain time of day to simulate a schedule.
Image (Asset 11/115) alt= Image (Asset 12/115) alt= Update... works! A feature in my 4+ year old lock that didn't know of!

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Image (Asset 13/115) alt= can also be adjusted to match the EU frequencies. This would be necessary to keep the system legal here and allow use of any other UK Z-Wave devices I have (like the Yale multipoint lock I’m also considering for the back door). Any thoughts ?

Image (Asset 14/115) alt= Image (Asset 15/115) alt= Image (Asset 16/115) alt= because there is Door state AND Door state (simple) it does show up in HA twice, both work and can be used in automations
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Wow good eye LSR19 and webmogul1! I'm still apprehensive about the 700 series chip. The YRD450 is by far the worst z-wave device on my network because it is so unreliable in it's state reporting, and occasional unavailability. I still find myself checking the physical lock every night before bed because I can't trust it.

I've been on the 700 chip for some time and found it to be quite reliable. That said, i do still check for the blinking light to indicate lock status.. better safe than sorry,.

My YRD430 with a ZW3 module has been rock-solid, with very low battery drain and fast response times. It does not, however, detect auto-unlock via BLE. I cannot find where to update the ZW3's firmware. My firmware is v. 2.35. Others have reported different firmware versions. You'd think Yale would provide firmware updates, but I can't find where. Anyone know?

I am buying an old house and I need to replace locks. I like the Yale assure appearance the best. I am thinking of going with YRD420-F-ZW3-0BP because it's the only model Yale seems to sell right now with the 700 series module. Any thoughts on buying the lock with the 500 vs 700 series right now?

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i think it's a bit of a toss up on the 700; you're only going to have what i would consider the best firmware if you were in the beta, otherwise, it appears you end up with some wild range of firmware versions. that said, battery life in 700 is better than 500

I see no reason to get any device with a 500 chip.

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